Lonely Planet ืžื“ื‘ืจ ... ื”ืกื•ืคืจืช ืื™ื–ื‘ืœ ืืœื ื“ื” - ืœื•ื ืœื™ ืคืœืื ื˜

Lonely Planet ืžื“ื‘ืจ ... ื”ืกื•ืคืจืช ืื™ื–ื‘ืœ ืืœื ื“ื” - ืœื•ื ืœื™ ืคืœืื ื˜

ืงืกื, ืžื™ืกื˜ื™ืงื” ื•ืกืชื™ืจื•ืช ืžืขื•ืจืจื•ืช ื”ืฉืจืื” ื ืจืื” ืœื”ืงื™ืฃ ืื™ื–ื‘ืœ ืื™ื™ื ื“ื”. ื”ื™ื ื˜ื•ืขื ืช, ื›ื›ืœ ื”ื ืจืื”, ื›ืกื•ืคืจืช ื”ื—ื™ื™ื ื”ืžืคื•ืจืกืžืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืฆ'ื™ืœื”, ื•ื‘ื›ืœ ื–ืืช, ื”ื™ื ืื™ื ื” ื—ื™ื” ืœืฆืžื™ืชื•ืช ื‘ืžื•ืœื“ืชื”, ืืœื ื‘ื•ื—ืจืช ืœื”ืžืฉื™ืš ืืช ื’ืœื•ืชื”, ืฉืชื—ื™ืœืชื” ื‘ื™ืžื™ื ื”ืžืกื•ื›ื ื™ื ืœืื—ืจ ืกื™ืœื•ืงื• ืฉืœ ืกืœื‘ื“ื•ืจ ืื™ื™ื ื“ื” ืžืžืฉืจื“ื• ื‘ื”ืคื™ื›ื” ืฉืœ 1973.

ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ื™ื—ืกื™ื ืฉืœื” ืขื ื”ื ืฉื™ื ื”ืกื•ืฆื™ืืœื™ืกื˜ื™ - ื”ื•ื ื”ื™ื” ื‘ืŸ ื“ื•ื“ื• ืฉืœ ืื‘ื™ื”, ื•ืœื›ืŸ ื”ื“ื•ื“ ืฉืœื” ื”ื•ืกืจ ืคืขื - ื™ื—ื“ ืขื ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื” ื›ืขื™ืชื•ื ืื™ืช ื•ืคืจืฉื ื™ืช, ื•ื—ื™ื™ื‘ื” ืืช ื™ืฆื™ืืชื” ื”ืžื”ื™ืจื” ืžืžื•ืœื“ืชื”. ืื‘ืœ ืฆ'ื™ืœื” ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื ืฉืืจืช ื‘ื—ื–ื™ืช ื•ื‘ืžืจื›ื– ื‘ื—ื™ื™ื” ื•ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื”, ื•ืืœื ื“ื” ื—ื•ื–ืจืช ืœื›ืžื” ื—ื•ื“ืฉื™ื ื‘ืจื•ื‘ ื”ืฉื ื™ื ื›ื“ื™ ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ ื•ืœื”ืชื—ื‘ืจ ืžื—ื“ืฉ ืขื ื”ืืจืฅ ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืžืขื•ืจืจื™ื ื‘ื” ื”ืฉืจืื”.

ื›ืกื•ืคืจ, ืืœื ื“ื” ื ื”ื ืชื” ื”ืฆืœื—ื” ืžืกื™ื‘ื™ืช. ืกืคืจื™ื” ืชื•ืจื’ืžื• ืœ -35 ืฉืคื•ืช, ื•ืžื›ืจื• ื™ื•ืชืจ ืž -65 ืžื™ืœื™ื•ืŸ ืขื•ืชืงื™ื ื‘ืจื—ื‘ื™ ื”ืขื•ืœื. ื”ื™ื ืื•ืœื™ ืžืคื•ืจืกืžืช ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืจื•ืžื ื™ื ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืจื•ื—ื•ืช / ื• ืื•ื•ื” ืœื•ื ื”, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื™ื ื›ืชื‘ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืž -20 ืกืคืจื™ื ืขืœ ื”ืงืจื™ื™ืจื” ื”ืืจื•ื›ื” ืฉืœื”, ื•ื–ื›ืชื” ืœืฉื‘ื—ื™ื ื‘ื™ื ืœืื•ืžื™ื™ื ืื™ื ืกืคื•ืจ ืขืœ ืขื‘ื•ื“ืชื”, ืืฉืจ ืฉื•ืื‘ืช ื”ืฉืจืื” ืฉืœื” ืœื ืจืง ืžืŸ ื”ืขื‘ืจ ืฉืœื”, ืืœื ื’ื ืžืŸ ื”ื™ื™ื—ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช ื•ืืช ื”ืžื•ืจื›ื‘ื•ื™ื•ืช ืฉืœ ื”ืžื•ืœื“ืช ืฉืœ ื ื•ืฃ ื•ืื ืฉื™ื.

ืชืคืกื ื• ืืช ืืœื ื“ื” ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ ืืช ืฆ'ื™ืœื” - ื”ืืจืฅ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ืœื•ื ืœื™ ืคืœืื ื˜ ืœื‘ืงืจ ื‘- 2018 - ืžื‘ืขื“ ืœืขื™ื ื™ื”.

ื›ื•ื›ื‘ ื‘ื•ื“ื“: ืื–, ืžื” ืืชื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื”ื•ื ืขืœ ื”ืขื ื”ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™?

ืื™ื–ื‘ืœ ืืœื ื“ื”: ืื™ืจื•ื— ... ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืกื‘ื™ืจื™ ืคื ื™ื, ื‘ืžื™ื•ื—ื“ ืขื ื–ืจื™ื. ืœื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ื”ืจื‘ื” ืื—ื“ ืขื ื”ืฉื ื™. ืื‘ืœ ืชืžื™ื“ ืชืžืฆืื• ื‘ืชื™ื ืคืชื•ื—ื™ื ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ืžื•ื›ื ื™ื ืœืงื‘ืœ ืืช ืคื ื™ื›ื. ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืคืฉื•ื˜ ื ื•ืคืœื™ื, ืืชื” ืœื ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ืชืงืฉืจ ืื• ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืžื•ื–ืžืŸ. ืจืง ืชื™ื›ื ืก. ื‘ืจื’ืข ืฉืชืขื‘ื•ืจ ืืช ืกืฃ ื‘ื™ืช ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ ืชื•ืฆืข ืœืš ืžืฉื”ื• ืœืฉืชื•ืช. ื’ื ื‘ื‘ื™ืช ื”ืฆื ื•ืข ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ, ืฉื‘ื• ืื™ืŸ ืœื”ื ื›ืœื•ื, ื”ื ื™ืฆื™ืขื• ืœืš ืชื” ืื• ืžื™ื ืื• ืžื” ืฉื™ืฉ ืœื”ื. ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื–ื• ื”ืชื›ื•ื ื” ื”ื›ื™ ื™ืคื” ืฉืœื ื•.

LP you ืื– ืื ื–ื” ื”ืžืืคื™ื™ืŸ ื”ื›ื™ ื™ืคื”, ืื– ืžื”ื™ ื”ืชื›ื•ื ื” ื”ื›ื™ ื’ืจื•ืขื”?

IA: ื—ื”!

LP you ... ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืกื•ื“ื™ ืฉื›ืœ ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ ื™ื•ื“ืข ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื• ืื‘ืœ ื—ื•ืฉืฉ ืœื”ื•ื“ื•ืช ื‘ื•?

IA: ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืžืขื™ืŸ ืžืขืจื›ืช ืžืขืžื“ ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ ืฉื”ื™ื ื›ืžื• [ืžืขืจื›ืช ื”ืงืืกื˜ื”] ื‘ื”ื•ื“ื•. ืืฃ ืื—ื“ ืœื ืžื“ื‘ืจ ืขืœ ื–ื”, ื•ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืชื•ื—ื›ื. ืืชื” ืฆืจื™ืš ืœื”ื™ื•ืช ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ ื›ื“ื™ ืœื”ื‘ื™ืŸ. ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืืชื” ืคื•ื’ืฉ ืžื™ืฉื”ื• ืืชื” ืžื™ื“ ืžืกื•ื•ื’ ืื ืฉื™ื, ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข ืœืืŸ ื”ื ืฉื™ื™ื›ื™ื. ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ื—ื“ื™ืจ, ื›ื™ ื”ื—ื‘ืจื” ื”ืฉืชื ืชื”, ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืžื•ื“ืจื ื™. ื™ืฉ ื”ืฉืคืขื•ืช ืฉืœ ื–ืจื™ื, ื•ื–ื” ื™ื•ืชืจ ืคืชื•ื—. ืื‘ืœ ืื ื™ ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ื‘ืžืขืจื›ืช ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช ืžืื•ื“ ืงืคื“ื ื™ืช. ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ื™ืฉ ืœื ื• ืžื ื˜ืœื™ื•ืช ืฆืจื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื. ื”ืžืฉืงืœ ืฉืœ ื”ื›ื ืกื™ื™ื” ื”ืงืชื•ืœื™ืช ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืฉื. ืžื‘ื—ื™ื ื” ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช, ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืžืชืงื“ืžืช ืžืื•ื“; ืื‘ืœ ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื.

LP you ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœืงื—ืช ืื•ืชื™ ื“ืจืš ื”ืื–ื•ืจื™ื?

IA: ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขืžื•ืง ื“ืจื•ืžื”, ืื‘ืœ ืœื ืœืื ื˜ืืจืงื˜ื™ืงื”. ืื ื™ ืืชื—ื™ืœ ื‘ืคื˜ื’ื•ื ื™ื”. ื–ื” ื ื”ื“ืจ ... ื™ืงืจ ืžืื•ื“ ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืจื—ื•ืง, ืžืื•ื“ ืžื‘ื•ื“ื“. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื”ืจื™ื ื”ื™ืคื™ื ืฉืœ ื˜ื•ืจืก ื“ืœ ืคื™ื™ืŸ ืžื“ื”ื™ืžื™ื, ื•ืื ืืชื” ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ื’ื™ืข ืœืฉื ื–ื” ืคืฉื•ื˜ ืžื“ื”ื™ื. ื–ื” ืกื•ื’ ืฉืœ ืชื™ื™ืจื•ืช ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ืช ื›ื™ ื”ืื™ืจื•ืคื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื ืœืขืฉื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ื›ืžื” ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ื ื™ื›ื•ืœ ืœื”ืจืฉื•ืช ืœืขืฆืžื• ืืช ื–ื”.

ืื– ื›ืžื• ืฉืืชื” ืขื•ืœื” ืืชื” ืขื•ื‘ืจ ืืช ื”ืื–ื•ืจื™ื ืฉืœ ื”ืื’ืžื™ื, ืฉืœ ื”ืจื™ ื’ืขืฉ, ืฉืœ ื”ื™ืขืจื•ืช - ื–ื” ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ื™ืคื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ืฉืœ ืฆ 'ื™ืœื”. ืชื•ื›ืœื• ืœืžืฆื•ื ืื•ื›ืœ ื ืคืœื, ืคื™ืจื•ืช ื™ื ืขืœ ื”ื—ื•ืฃ, ืžืกืขื“ื•ืช ื ื”ื“ืจื•ืช - ื™ืฉ ื”ืฉืคืขื” ื’ืจืžื ื™ืช ืืชื” ื™ื•ื“ืข, ื›ืš ืฉืชื•ื›ืœ ืœืžืฆื•ื ืคืฉื˜ื™ื“ื•ืช ืชืคื•ื—ื™ื ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื!

ื•ืื–, ื›ืฉืืชื ืžื’ื™ืขื™ื ืœืคื•ืืจื˜ื• ืžื•ื ื˜, ืืชื ื™ื›ื•ืœื™ื ืœืขื‘ื•ืจ ืืœ ืฆ'ื™ืœื•ืื”, ืืจื›ื™ืคืœื’ ืฉืœ ื›ืžื” ืื™ื™ื - ื›ืœื•ืžืจ, ืžืื•ืช ืื™ื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื ื•ืื™ ืื—ื“ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ืžืจืชืง ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ... ืœืžืจื•ืช ืฉืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื™ืฉ ืœื›ื ื˜ืœื•ื•ื™ื–ื™ื”, ื”ื ื‘ื•ื ื™ื ืฉื“ื” ืชืขื•ืคื”, ื–ื” ืฉื•ื ื” ืœื’ืžืจื™ ืžืžื” ืฉื”ื™ื” ืœืคื ื™ ื›ืžื” ืฉื ื™ื. ื‘ื’ืœืœ ื–ื” ื”ื™ื” ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืžื‘ื•ื“ื“ ื‘ืžืฉืš ื–ืžืŸ ืจื‘, ื–ื” ืขื“ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืื•ื“ ื›ืคืจื™, ื”ื›ืœ ืงื•ืจื” ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ื”ื™ื, ืขืœ ื™ื“ื™ ืžื™ื, ื›ืš ื”ืื™ื™ื ืžื—ื•ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ืกื™ืจื”, ื•ื›ืœ ื”ืื™ ื”ื•ื ืžืื•ื“ ืžืกื•ื™ื. ื–ื” ื›ืžื• ืœื—ื–ื•ืจ 50 ืฉื ื”, ื•ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ื™ืคื”.

ื•ืื– ื›ืฉืชืขืœื” ืชืžืฆื ื›ืžื” ืžื—ื•ื–ื•ืช ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื ื ื”ื“ืจื™ื. ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื” Valdivia ... ื–ื” ื™ื•ืจื“ ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ ืื– ื–ื” ื™ืจื•ืง ื•ื™ืคื”. ื›ืืŸ ื ืžืฆืื™ื ื”ื”ืกืชื™ื™ื’ื•ื™ื•ืช ื”ื”ื•ื“ื™ื•ืช - ื”ืกืชื™ื™ื’ื•ืช ืžืืคื•ืฆ'ื” - ื•ื–ื” ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ ืžืื•ื“ ื‘ืžื•ื‘ืŸ ื”ื–ื”.

ื•ืื– ืืชื” ื”ื•ืœืš ืืœ ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื—ืงืœืื•ืช ื”ื™ื ื”ืชืขืฉื™ื™ื” ื•ืœืื—ืจ ืžื›ืŸ ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื•. ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื• ื”ื™ื ืขื™ืจ ืขื ืงื™ืช, ืžื—ืฆื™ืช ืžืื•ื›ืœื•ืกื™ื™ืช ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื—ื™ื” ื‘ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื•.

LP you ืžื” ืžื’ื“ื™ืจ ืืช ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื• ื›ืขื™ืจ?

IA: ื™ืฉ ื›ืžื” ื”ืคืฉื˜ื•ืช. ืžืขื•ืœื ืœื ืขืฉื™ืชื™ ืชื™ื™ืจื•ืช ื‘ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื• ... ื’ื“ืœืชื™ ืฉื. ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉื’ื“ืœื™ื ื‘ืžืงื•ื ืืฃ ืคืขื ืœื ืขื•ืฉื™ื ืชื™ื™ืจื•ืช, ืื‘ืœ ืœืคืื‘ืœื• ื ืจื•ื“ื” ื™ืฉ โ€‹โ€‹ื‘ื™ืช. ืœืžืฉื•ืจืจ ื”ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ ื”ื’ื“ื•ืœ ื™ืฉ ืฉืœื•ืฉื” ื‘ืชื™ื - ืื—ื“ ื‘ื•ื•ืœืคืจืื™ืกื•, ืœื” ืฆ'ืกืงื•ื ื” [ื‘ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื•], ื•ื”ืฉื ื™ ื‘ืื™ืกืœื” ื ื’ืจื”. ื•ืืชื” ื‘ืืžืช ืฆืจื™ืš ืœืœื›ืช ืœืฉื ื›ื™ ื–ื” ืขืœ ื”ื—ื•ืฃ, ืืฉืจ ื ืจืื” ืžืื•ื“ ื›ืžื• ื—ื•ืฃ ื”ืื•ืงื™ื™ื ื•ืก โ€‹โ€‹ื”ืฉืงื˜ ื›ืืŸ ื‘ืงืœื™ืคื•ืจื ื™ื”.

ืกื ื˜ื™ืื’ื• ื™ืฉ ื’ื ืืช Cerro ืกื ื˜ื” ืœื•ืฆ 'ื” [ืคืืจืง ื”ื’ื‘ืขื”], ื•ื–ื” ื ื—ืžื“ ืžืื•ื“. ื•ื™ืฉ ืืช ืกืจื• ืกืืŸ ืงืจื™ืกื˜ื•ื‘ืœ ื”ืขื ืงื™ืช, ืฉื‘ื” ื”ื ืจื•ืื™ื ื”ืจ, ืื‘ืœ ื–ื” ืœื - ื–ื” ื’ื‘ืขื” ื’ื“ื•ืœื”. ื™ืฉ ื’ื ื ืงื•ื“ื•ืช ืฆื™ื•ืŸ ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ื•ืช ืžืกื•ื™ืžื•ืช. ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืœื” ืžื•ื ื“ื”, ื”ืืจืžื•ืŸ ื”ื ืฉื™ืื•ืชื™ [ืฉื”ื•ืคืฆืฅ] ื‘ืžื”ืœืš ื”ื”ืคื™ื›ื” ื”ืฆื‘ืื™ืช ื‘ -11 ื‘ืกืคื˜ืžื‘ืจ 1973.ื–ื” ื—ืชื™ื›ืช ื”ื”ื™ืกื˜ื•ืจื™ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืžืขื ื™ื™ืŸ. ื•ืื– ื™ืฉ ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ืชืจื‘ื•ืช ืจื‘ื™ื ื•ื™ืฉ ื›ืžื” ื‘ืืจื™ื•ืก (ืฉื›ื•ื ื•ืช) ื›ื™ ื”ื ืžืงืกื™ื. ืœื“ื•ื’ืžื”, ื‘ืœื” ื•ื™ืกื˜ื” ื”ื™ื ืฉื›ื•ื ื” ืฉืœ ืืžื ื•ืช ื–ื” ืžืงื•ื ื ื—ืžื“ ืžืื•ื“.

ื•ืื– ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืขื•ืœื” ืฆืคื•ื ื” ืืœ ืœื” ืกืจื ื” ืขื ื”ื—ื•ืคื™ื ื”ื™ืคื™ื ืฉืœื”. ืื‘ืœ ื”ื—ืœืง ื”ื›ื™ ื˜ื•ื‘ ื‘ืฆืคื•ืŸ, ืœื“ืขืชื™, ื”ื•ื ืกืŸ ืคื“ืจื• ื“ื” ืื˜ืงืžื”. ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืฉื ื›ืžื” ืคืขืžื™ื. ื‘ืคืขื ื”ืจืืฉื•ื ื” ืฉื”ืœื›ืชื™ ืœืฉื ืœื ื”ื™ืชื” ืฉื•ื ื“ืจืš. ื–ื” ื ืจืื” ื›ืžื• ื”ื™ืจื— ... ืžืจืชืง! ื•ืขื›ืฉื™ื• ื™ืฉ ืœื”ื ื‘ืชื™ ืžืœื•ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœื™ื, ืœื ืžืคื•ืืจื™ื ืืœื ื‘ืชื™ ืžืœื•ืŸ ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื™ื. ื•ื’ื ืขื‘ื•ืจ ืชื™ื™ืจื™ื ืืงื•ืœื•ื’ื™ื™ื, ืกืŸ ืคื“ืจื• ื”ื•ื ื”ืžืงื•ื ื”ืงืกื•ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ.

LP you ืžื” ืืชื” ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืืชื” ืจื•ืื” ื›ื™ ืฆ 'ื™ืœืื ื™ื ืœื ืจื•ืื” ืขืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืฉืœื”ื?

IA: ืื”, ืื ื™ ืœื ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉื”ื ืจื•ืื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื ื‘ื›ืœืœ. ื–ื” ื›ืื™ืœื• ืื ื—ื ื• ืžืกืชื›ืœื™ื ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื ื• ื‘ืžืจืื” ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืจื•ืื™ื ืจืง ืืช ื”ืคื’ืžื™ื - ื–ื” ืงื•ืจื” ื‘ืฆ'ื™ืœื”. ื”ื ืœื ืจื•ืื™ื ืืช ืขืฆืžื ืžื‘ื™ื ื™ื ืื™ื–ื” ืืจืฅ ื ื”ื“ืจืช ืื ื—ื ื•. ืื ืฉื™ื ืžืชืœื•ื ื ื™ื ื›ืœ ื”ื–ืžืŸ. ื”ืืจืฅ ื”ื–ืืช ื”ื™ื ื›ื ืจืื” ื”ื˜ื•ื‘ื” ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ื›ืœ ืืžืจื™ืงื” ื”ืœื˜ื™ื ื™ืช. ื™ืฆื™ื‘ื•ืช ื—ื‘ืจืชื™ืช, ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืช ื•ื›ืœื›ืœื™ืช. ื’ื ืื™ ืฉื•ื•ื™ื•ืŸ ื’ื“ื•ืœ. ื”ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื ื”ื ื”ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื ื‘ื™ื•ืชืจ ื‘ืขื•ืœื ื•ื”ืขื ื™ื™ื ... ื”ื”ื‘ื“ืœ ื‘ื™ืŸ ื”ืขืฉื™ืจื™ื ืœืขื ื™ื™ื ื”ื•ื ืขืฆื•ื. ืื‘ืœ ืืชื” ืœื ืžื•ืฆื ืขื•ื ื™ ืงื™ืฆื•ื ื™ ... ืจืง ื›ื™ืกื™ื ืงื˜ื ื™ื ืžืื•ื“ ืฉืœ ืขื•ื ื™ ืงื™ืฆื•ื ื™. ื›ืฉื’ืจืชื™ ื‘ืฆ'ื™ืœื”, ื‘ืฉื ื•ืช ื” -70, ื”ื™ืชื” ื–ื• ืืจืฅ ืขื ื™ื™ื”, ืื– ื”ืชืงื“ืžื ื• ื”ืจื‘ื”. ื•ืื ื—ื ื• ืžื“ื™ื ื” ื ื”ื“ืจืช ื‘ื”ืจื‘ื” ื“ืจื›ื™ื ืจื‘ื•ืช.

LP you ื›ืš ืฉ [ืคืกื™ืžื™ื•ืช] ืชื”ื™ื” ืžืืคื™ื™ืŸ ืžืจื›ื–ื™ ืฉืœ ื”ืื“ื ื”ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™?

IA: ืœื, ืœื ื”ื™ื™ืชื™ ืื•ืžืจ ืžืืคื™ื™ืŸ ื—ื™ื•ื ื™, ืœื. ื–ื” ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืื•ืคื™ ืฉืœื ื•. ื”ื“ื‘ืจ ื”ืฉื ื™ ื™ื”ื™ื” ืœื”ืคืชื™ืข ืื•ืชืš ื”ื™ื ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืœื ืœื”ืชืจื‘ืจื‘ ื‘ืฆ 'ื™ืœื”. ืื– ื›ืฉืื ื™ ืžื’ื™ืข ืœืืจื”"ื‘, ื›ืฉื‘ืขืœื™ - ื‘ืขืœื™ ืžืชืจื‘ืจื‘ - ื–ื” ืžืฉื’ืข ืื•ืชื™, ื›ื™ ื‘ืฉื‘ื™ืœื™ ื–ื” ื“ื‘ืจ ื ื•ืจื ื›ืœ ื›ืš ืœื”ื’ื™ื“ ืžืฉื”ื• ื˜ื•ื‘ ืขืœ ืขืฆืžืš. ื•ื–ื” ืžืื•ื“ ืืžืจื™ืงื ื™. ืฆ'ื™ืœื™ืื ื™ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ื‘ืงื˜ื ื•ืช; ืื ื—ื ื• ืœื ืื•ืžืจื™ื 'agua' ืื ื—ื ื• ืื•ืžืจื™ื 'ืื’ื•ื™ื˜ื”'. ื”ื›ืœ ืงื˜ืŸ. ื–ื” ื—ืœืง ืžื”ืฆื ื™ืขื•ืช ืฉืœื ื•. ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืื ื—ื ื• ืขืœ ืขืฆืžื ื• ื•ืขืœ ื”ืžื“ื™ื ื” ืฉืœื ื• ื•ืขืœ ื›ืœ ืžื” ืฉืœื ื•, ื”ื•ื ืชืžื™ื“ ืœื ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžื“ื™. ื’ื ืื ืื ื—ื ื• ื—ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืฉื–ื” ื˜ื•ื‘ ืžืื•ื“, ืœื ื ืืžืจ ืืช ื–ื”. ื•ืื– ื—ื•ืฉ ื”ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ ืฉืœื ื• ื—ืฉื•ืš ืžืื•ื“. ื“ื•ืžื” ืžืื•ื“ ืœื”ื•ืžื•ืจ ื™ื”ื•ื“ื™: ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ ืขืฆืžื™, ืื›ื–ืจื™, ืฉื—ื•ืจ, ื”ื•ืžื•ืจ ืฉื—ื•ืจ.

LP you ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืฉืื ืฉื™ื ืจื‘ื™ื ืžื’ื™ืขื™ื ืžืื™ืจื•ืคื” ื•ืžืืจืฆื•ืช ื”ื‘ืจื™ืช ื•ื”ื•ืœื›ื™ื ืœืฆ'ื™ืœื” ืœืฆืคื•ืช ืœืจื™ืงื•ื“ ืกืœืกื” ื•ืื ืฉื™ื ืกื•ืขืจื™ื, ืื‘ืœ ื”ื ืžืงื‘ืœื™ื ืืช ื”ื”ืคืš ื”ื’ืžื•ืจ.

IA: ืื•ืœื™ ืื ื™ ื”ื›ืœืœื” - ื›ืžื•ื‘ืŸ, ืื ื™ ื”ื›ืœืœื” - ืื‘ืœ ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขืœ ื•ื ืฆื•ืืœื”, ืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ืช ืขืœ ืื ืฉื™ื ืฉืฉื•ืชื™ื ื•ืจื•ืงื“ื™ื; ื›ืฉืื ื™ ื—ื•ืฉื‘ ืขืœ ืฆ 'ื™ืœื”, ื›ื•ืœื ื• ื™ื•ืฉื‘ื™ื ืžื“ื‘ืจื™ื ืคื•ืœื™ื˜ื™ืงื”.

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